tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729872479519980598.post5363272435207300356..comments2024-03-19T05:33:01.458-04:00Comments on surface fragments: Ingres Portrait Drawings, and the 'Giraffe-neck' women of Kayan Lahwi tribeAlanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15409604820178478573noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729872479519980598.post-47297278043658957052024-01-23T21:04:59.541-05:002024-01-23T21:04:59.541-05:00Greeat shareGreeat shareCD2 Newshttps://cd2news.tumblr.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729872479519980598.post-72638255453053731532013-12-25T11:29:22.659-05:002013-12-25T11:29:22.659-05:00I've just discovered your blog and am intrigue...I've just discovered your blog and am intrigued with the range and depth of your posts; particularly about specific issues on the process of painting...space, focus, etc.!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729872479519980598.post-50138157354386591852013-12-25T11:26:32.541-05:002013-12-25T11:26:32.541-05:00The vitality and fluidity of the Ingres' line ...The vitality and fluidity of the Ingres' line seems of far more interest than his distortions. The spirit of his line,coupled with the gesture and presence of the sitter, also makes Hockney's discussion of the possible use of a prism to project the image of small interest, to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729872479519980598.post-10781872629166311122011-12-02T18:39:29.843-05:002011-12-02T18:39:29.843-05:00Roxey Ann Caplin make in 1851 a corset resting on ...Roxey Ann Caplin make in 1851 a corset resting on the hips. Before 1851 the total weight was hanging on the shoulders.<br /><br />It was therefore no wonder that women had drooping shoulders.Peter O.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17180881847372072499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729872479519980598.post-89600450658775964082011-10-04T12:42:21.586-04:002011-10-04T12:42:21.586-04:00Great Freakkin article!
I have used Ingres as a p...Great Freakkin article!<br /> I have used Ingres as a portrait style model for years and never really noticed these distortions per se. Mrs Hunchback in particular- not only are her levator scapulae gigantic, but her right boob is almost in her armpit while her left one is about the center of her chest. I still love his work, and they are very expressive at the very least. Maybe he really was "anger"<br /> <br />ps- very nice portrait of your daughter!Steve Shriverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14387935616428917111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729872479519980598.post-60308524139541437212011-10-03T10:51:46.490-04:002011-10-03T10:51:46.490-04:00Alan, your posting is at once very scholarly and v...Alan, your posting is at once very scholarly and very entertaining. I have loved the work of Ingres from the time I started drawing, and yet I never noticed how distorted his figures actually are! These necks and shoulders are so uniformly distorted that Ingres surely must have done so by formula. It makes me want to go back and take another look at the work of his teacher, David.<br /><br />On another note, of course not everyone conforms to the ratio of seven heads to a figure, and I've worked exactingly from a photograph only to realize that the model was six heads to the figure. In person the model looked perfectly formed, and on paper the head was way too large. So I ended up doing some Ingres-like cut and paste with the anatomy.Mark D. Ruffnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09241533547309049140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729872479519980598.post-10495391582009473282011-10-03T08:33:30.636-04:002011-10-03T08:33:30.636-04:00This post has such an aha moment and I love the wa...This post has such an aha moment and I love the way you've written it! Even though you had me laughing, I am indeed scrutinizing all of the lovely detail in his drawings (and yours!)Lisa McMillenhttp://www.cicalisadesigns.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729872479519980598.post-53343089924032641912011-10-03T02:02:31.328-04:002011-10-03T02:02:31.328-04:00Nice to have so much of your personality shine thr...Nice to have so much of your personality shine through in this post!<br /><br />You have touched up one of the great mysteries of the world, the changeable nature of fashion. Both men and women have been depicted in art at various times with all sort of different features emphasized, and once a style became popular people went to great extremes to warp their bodies to suit the new look. Just look at the difference in ladies' clothes between 1810 - 1835: They went from loose empire-waisted Grecian dresses to giant skirts with huge puffy sleeves so restrictive they could not raise their arms in them. People wore corsets to alter the shapes of their bodies, clothes were cut to make ladies shoulders look impossibly narrow and rounded forward, men padded their coats to give the appearance of a bird-like puffed up chest, etc etc etc. And we do it still.<br /><br />If you read David Hockney's book "the secret knowledge" he claims that Ingres used optics to capture the features of his sitter and the distortion was due to working from two different sources. <br />but I believe Ingres was a superb draughtsman and that he chose to emphasize certain features to flatter the sitter's sense of fashion.<br /><br />and I might add your drawing is also rather nice indeed, mister. <br /><br />great post, Alan.Lynne Rutterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03861049506323014982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729872479519980598.post-46446778396274126562011-10-02T23:42:03.059-04:002011-10-02T23:42:03.059-04:00Interesting.....(said with one eyebrow raised)...a...Interesting.....(said with one eyebrow raised)...and your humor is greatly appreciated as I read this tonight!Theresa Cheekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11429069123185290732noreply@blogger.com